Saturday, January 31, 2009

Augustine's view towards women

Even though we are done with Augustine’s discussions in class, I found something during the last days that is worth for people to know about him. I have always had this doubt about women in the classical, medieval and even modern eras, where were them that nobody have said anything about them? I know they did not have any political or civil rights and they were almost nobodies in those times. However, I have always asked myself what did philosophers think about women?
This is something that I found about Plato’s view towards women:
“It is only males who are created directly by the gods and are given souls. Those who live rightly return to the stars, but those who are cowards or [lead unrighteous live] may with reason be supposed to have changed into the nature of women in the second generation’. This downward progress may continue through successive reincarnations unless reversed. In this situation, obviously it is only men who are complete human beings and can hope for ultimate fulfillment; the best a woman can hope for is to become a man” (Plato, Timaeus 90e)

So, this is what Augustine’s believed about men and women, hard but true. What I understood about this, is that being a woman is a shame. However, we have demonstrated that it isn’t. Maybe we lack things that men have, but they also lack things that we do have. I am not saying women are better than men, but that we are just a complement.

1 comment:

  1. This is interesting.

    Augustine certainly was influenced by the philosphy of Plato, but he didn't agree with it in every regard. I think this would be an example of a disagreement.

    In the City of God Augustine wrote,

    "[S]ome conclude that women shall not rise women, but that all shall be men...For my part, they seem to be wiser who make no doubt that both sexes shall rise. For there shall be no lust, which is now the cause of confusion. For before they sinned, the man and the woman were naked, and were not ashamed. From those bodies, then, vice shall be withdrawn, while nature shall be preserved. And, the sex of woman is not a vice, but nature."

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